For example, when someone says "Hinduism is the worst religion as it discriminates based on birth" many of us reply like say "Isn't it there in faith Y?" or "It's based on profession" & such.
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#SanathanaDharma
Dear Friends, a few points to share regarding the Varna Ashrama Dharma.
Vested interests take advantage of our lack of awareness of this particular Dharma and project it as discriminatory.
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For example, when someone says "Hinduism is the worst religion as it discriminates based on birth" many of us reply like say "Isn't it there in faith Y?" or "It's based on profession" & such.
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1. Paramathma & Jivathma Thathvam
2. Karma-based Jananam, life events & Maranam
3. Narakam, Swargam & Moksham
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Where has it ever been said that only Archakas & Yagnyopaveethadhaaris can get Gnanam & reach Moksham?? All are most welcome!!
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So, one being a Brahmana or Shudra in this birth doesn't mean anything. The same Jiva could've been a tree / animal in previous birth or may become one in the next!!
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Why would He discriminate against His own children?! It's such a stupid interpretation of Varnashrama Dharma. Emperumaan can hardly wait for us to reach Him. He's the beneficiary when we reach Him!!
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No leftist / conversion agent will tell you this!
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More from Ms K G Dhouhithri
I understand the disappointment when our sects fight in full public view and the embarrassment thereof.
However, my concern is different, TBH.
Am even okay with all our infighting.
My problem is when we don't set those differences aside & join hands to face a common foe.
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This maturity is not new to us - it has already been explained in the Mahabharatha!!
Yudhishtira tells his brothers to fight the Gandharvas & defend their cousins (Kaurava). This was *after* the game of dice, mark you.
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When Bheema protested, Yudhishtira explains: "Between us & the Kauravas, we are 5, they are a hundred. In front of outsiders, however, we're a 105."
Sanathana Dharma has been there for time immemorial. It's natural that we have sects, unresolved disagreements, etc..
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Abrahamics have sects for just a 2000-year existence. And they too bicker among themselves!!!
So, the real issue, IMHO, is forgetting to gather under our common identity.
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If we try to silence voices or concerns of our internal sects for the sake of common unity, some people of the section that feels unheard may even shake hands with the very foe we're trying to vanquish. This is one of my greatest concerns.
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However, my concern is different, TBH.
Am even okay with all our infighting.
My problem is when we don't set those differences aside & join hands to face a common foe.
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This is the problem with us. After all we fight among ourselves for Thengalai or Vadagalai Thiruman for temple elephants. https://t.co/kLvdZl25Ea
— Krish Sriram (@anavrittim) February 6, 2021
This maturity is not new to us - it has already been explained in the Mahabharatha!!
Yudhishtira tells his brothers to fight the Gandharvas & defend their cousins (Kaurava). This was *after* the game of dice, mark you.
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When Bheema protested, Yudhishtira explains: "Between us & the Kauravas, we are 5, they are a hundred. In front of outsiders, however, we're a 105."
Sanathana Dharma has been there for time immemorial. It's natural that we have sects, unresolved disagreements, etc..
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Abrahamics have sects for just a 2000-year existence. And they too bicker among themselves!!!
So, the real issue, IMHO, is forgetting to gather under our common identity.
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If we try to silence voices or concerns of our internal sects for the sake of common unity, some people of the section that feels unheard may even shake hands with the very foe we're trying to vanquish. This is one of my greatest concerns.
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Swamin, thanks much for sharing the refreshing words of the great Swami Pillailokacharyar. Wouldn't dream of speaking against Him. 🙏
Only meant to point out how far we've gone away (IMHO) from the main goal of a Jivathma while dealing with the mischief of vested interests.
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In the loud din made by deliberate screams like "Can all become Archakars?" or "Can women become Acharyas?", I feel we've kept ourselves too busy in listening to this pointless noise & in trying to "prove" that our Dharma is "inclusive", "open-minded" & what not.
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In the process, the very purpose of our Janma (Moksham) and the very objective of our Jivathma (Nithya Kainkaryam for Bhagawan and His Adiyaars) lay forgotten.
The truth is these are always open to all Jivathmas regardless of the Varna or any other attribute one can think of.
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Swami Ramanujacharya & Swami Pillailokacharyar taught us to respect all Jivathmas based on the gnanam, kainkarya manobhavam and other such beautiful parameters.
They showed us examples from our own Ithihasas & Puranas. They didn't do any "activism" is what I mean to say.
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They taught us that the natural state of the Jivathma is daasathvam towards Emperumaan & His Adiyaars.
Any janma that enables the daasathvam manifest as kainkaryam is beautiful. Once this happens, Varna, Ashrama, etc. are just trivia.
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Only meant to point out how far we've gone away (IMHO) from the main goal of a Jivathma while dealing with the mischief of vested interests.
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According to Sri Pillai Lokacharya, he classifies the society based on birth in 2 types; 1.uthkrushtamaaga bramiththa jananam, i.e. 'misunderstood to be high birth", 2.apakrushtamaaga bramiththa jananam, i.e. 'misunderstood to be low birth'.
— \u0b85\u0bb1\u0bbf\u0bb5\u0bca\u0ba9\u0bcd\u0bb1\u0bc1\u0bae\u0bbf\u0bb2\u0bcd\u0bb2\u0bbe\u0ba4 (@rangaram99) January 23, 2021
In the loud din made by deliberate screams like "Can all become Archakars?" or "Can women become Acharyas?", I feel we've kept ourselves too busy in listening to this pointless noise & in trying to "prove" that our Dharma is "inclusive", "open-minded" & what not.
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In the process, the very purpose of our Janma (Moksham) and the very objective of our Jivathma (Nithya Kainkaryam for Bhagawan and His Adiyaars) lay forgotten.
The truth is these are always open to all Jivathmas regardless of the Varna or any other attribute one can think of.
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Swami Ramanujacharya & Swami Pillailokacharyar taught us to respect all Jivathmas based on the gnanam, kainkarya manobhavam and other such beautiful parameters.
They showed us examples from our own Ithihasas & Puranas. They didn't do any "activism" is what I mean to say.
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They taught us that the natural state of the Jivathma is daasathvam towards Emperumaan & His Adiyaars.
Any janma that enables the daasathvam manifest as kainkaryam is beautiful. Once this happens, Varna, Ashrama, etc. are just trivia.
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Before I begin, it might be worth explaining the Malay conception of the spirit world. At its deepest level, Malay religious belief is animist. All living beings and even certain objects are said to have a soul. Natural phenomena are either controlled by or personified as spirits
Although these beings had to be respected, not all of them were powerful enough to be considered gods. Offerings would be made to the spirits that had greater influence on human life. Spells and incantations would invoke their
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Two known examples of such elemental spirits that had god-like status are Raja Angin (king of the wind) and Mambang Tali Arus (spirit of river currents). There were undoubtedly many more which have been lost to time
Contact with ancient India brought the influence of Hinduism and Buddhism to SEA. What we now call Hinduism similarly developed in India out of native animism and the more formal Vedic tradition. This can be seen in the multitude of sacred animals and location-specific Hindu gods
