Somerset Loves Europe
#EveningwithSeanDromgoole
Starting at 8 live tweets:

Sean Dromgoole is Chair of CLP Somerton and Frome
Sean joins as Talk of West Country Bylines commending article about David Warburton
Introductions by Matt Geen
Sean pleased to become acquainted with pro EU group.
Somerset born and bred
Love affair with France began at age 6-7 on a family holiday and broken down Rover in a small village: amazing food + great play mates. School exchanges rendered Europe ordinary.
Then making a film -with Anthony Hopkins in France. Sean became the go-between both languages. France became a place where he could earn a living.
Onto working in Paris for the European Commission to attempt to redress the balance with a largely American film market. 20/25 years ago he was working to promote European writing - with EC funding
5 years of fun funding productions around Europe with some success -with a fraction of US funding
Big conference in Ireland to promote European film industry
French CNC against idea of English based initiative in France - they should be doing it. Sean insisted on addressing the big meeting in France in not very good French but it got them on side
However Sean found himself getting jaded so...he moved on and set up his own film company > moving into research > computer games
dustry > Nintendo and European slant and languages
Last few years running European businesses.
Now however, much more difficult to work across Europe.
Enjoyed + made full use of membership of European community.
Sean opened it out for group discussion:
Damage to businesses especially small enterprises. The cost of duty on goods coming into UK has already decimated trade. Tragic.
We need to target returning to single market -but over time- meanwhile we have to live with it.
Questions:
Richard Wilkins - how do you see the way forward?
Another referendum - No! Distrust of referendums - brings laughter.
We have to accept market rules. Can't pick and choose - up against negativity.
Hitler did 4 referendums
Adam Boyden
Should Labour have a long term aim to rejoin?
Should it be more decisive?
Sean: Not unless we have to...Starmer not likely to change Labour stance
Norway style in a few years - probably majority in favour
Adam Boyden
Musicians, Meat exports - is life going to get very bad + will that change public opinion?
Lack of choice, holidays, £ likely to fall making hols dearer. This will build slowly. Not short of food nor medicines. Jobs will disappear
Sam Geen
What internal feelings of Lab Party re EU + Brexit as well as Starmer's equivocation + wanting to look forward rather than backward + because more important things need attention. Govt have taken over items from Lab manifesto. All Remainers but not engaging *yet*
Tim Knowles
As an economist:
Exporting so difficult - chance of Sterling crash?
Other countries also have huge deficits + borrowing too much US economy in bad state. But who needs £s? € is stronger
Aaron Carriciolo
Why did we leave the EU?
Threat from Ukip. Cameron promised it. Do it our way or you're being very stupid - bad idea. At which point. The chief Brexiters moved in.
Jess
Before Lab can move closer to EU does Sean think they need to address north/ south divide?
Agrees - like taking Scotland for granted. Reflects poorly - need people like John Prescott involved. Value led policies. National v local village perspective. Good number of seats
But not a majority so that intelligent politicians work together on prioritised legislation together.
Matt sums up referring to Somerset Loves Europe
- ready for campaigning for PR
West Country Bylines for news with a West Country focus as well as National issues affecting us
Sean thanks us and will happily promote the group.
Thank you Sean Dromgoole - interesting evening
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I have kept quiet about Matthew's recent outpourings on here but as my estwhile co-author has now seen fit to portray me as an enabler of oppression I think I have a right to reply. So I will.

I consider Matthew to be a colleague and a friend, and we had a longstanding agreement not to engage in disputes on twitter. I disagree with much in the article @UOzkirimli wrote on his research in @openDemocracy but I strongly support his right to express such critical views

I therefore find it outrageous that Matthew saw fit to bully @openDemocracy with legal threats, seeking it seems to stifle criticism of his own work. Such behaviour is simply wrong, and completely inconsistent with an academic commitment to free speech.

I am not embroiling myself in the various other cases Matt lists because, unlike him, I think attention to the detail matters and I don't have time to research each of these cases in detail.

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