Today, a mezz thread!

Also, the answer to a few questions including:

Yesterday’s Value That Company!
Also, Why am I so dumb?
Finally, Why listen to me? 🤷‍♂️

Here we go!

A few years ago, I get a call from an acquaintance (we have several mutual good friends). He’s running a fast growing consumer finance company and needs cash...

It isn’t “I need $5 Million by Friday” but it’s close...
How fast are they growing? By the time we are negotiating the deal a week or 10 day later, the ask is up to $10 Million...
We did a little time travel yesterday on Value That Company, and I put you back in my shoes 3 years ago...

(Answer shortly)... https://t.co/mNFNGgHiMI
The business is fascinating, but also extremely sensitive to assumptions, underwriting, etc...

Management is good, but also very aggressive which I’m not sure I love...

Worse, we don’t have the time to really dig into the numbers as extensively as I’d like... https://t.co/np5UPBmjnu
Value That Company Answer:

I get comfortable enough with the numbers to estimate the company is worth at least $100 Million ...

Will I lend $10 Million (this was a big deal so I partnered with some friends) into $100 M equity value? Sure

Then the CEO asked if I’d do equity?
I politely decline, and go close the mezz deal ...

The company continues growing, and refinances me out within a year.

I get a 36.9% IRR ... a good deal all the way around.
But, oh wait, there is more! Turns out Matt is an idiot for not taking equity.

Yesterday, @IrishCapMGMT correctly identified the company on everyone’s favorite valuation game.

The company just sold for $1.65 Billion less than 3 years later... https://t.co/trYKMEJaJB
Based on these deal metrics, the correct valuation when I was looking at it was $88-200 Million (basically where I was)... take a midpoint of $150 Million and I could have done a 10x in less than 3 years
So, do I feel bad? Maybe, but I’d make the exact same decision again. Here are a few reasons:

1) Circle of Competence/Discipline - This deal was a success for me because I stayed disciplined within what I know. I don’t like/try to avoid risks I don’t understand
2) An honest congratulations to all involved (I have at least 3 friends and a former next door neighbor in the equity) ...

Why should their success diminish mine?
3) I believe there is still risk in this business that I don’t understand. The unit economics make no sense for the borrower (I’ve told my children to NEVER finance something in the store). Will a new administration/CFPB care?

IDK, but I’m unwilling to take the risk...
4) I haven’t looked at the financials for Rent-A-Center but I actually think this is a good deal for them. It’s a way to modernize their business while staying within their competence...

(I won’t be investing, though - see #1)
Final) Thank You for following along as I take this Twitter journey. I confess that I love it!
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If the pics in this @BootstrapCook thread are true and correct then the Govt/taxpayers & families in need are getting absolutely SHAFTED 👇🏽 2/


There are some mitigating circumstances. A £30 box won’t ever contain £30 (retail) worth of food - people aren’t factoring in
-the cost of the box
-paying someone to fill it
-rent & rates
-& most expensive the *transport/distribution*

3/

If you’re doing the above at scale. Delivering *across the UK* it’s not cheap BUT IMHO there should be at LEAST £20 worth of groceries in a £30 box. To get more value they need more fresh produce. Just carrots & apples is terrible. 4/

I’m gonna put my rep on the line here & say something about these big national catering companies whose names I’ve seen mentioned. They are an ASSHOLE to deal with & completely shaft small businesses like mine with their terms which is why I won’t deal with them. 5/

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