So, on the subject of bonkers hyperbolic pretzeling over the Bell judgement, Grace 'destroy books I don't like & make inappropriate jokes about sterilising teenage girls' Lavery has some thoughts.
Tell me why my feminism is wrong Grace.
Oh
Because if any human anywhere has any thoughts that deviate in any way from the rote line dictated by
Let's be honest Grace. It doesn't put trans people at risk. It puts trans ideology at risk. Because trans ideology depends on the idea of innate gender identity, and the trans child is the
That is, children are being medicalised to provide evidence to underwrite adults identities.
Nothing to see here.
Defo establishes you're 'not an MRA credentials' right of the bat.
Followed up with liberal application of 'CRUEL NASTY WIMMINS'
Novel.
1. It's not a juridical 'attack.' It's a judgement. About minor's capacity to consent to an experimental medical treatment.
2. It's not an attack on the whole 'LGBT' community.
3. It's not an attack on the trans community. Unless you consider the
If you need the existence of trans children to underwrite your identity and it feels like an existential threat for that to be challenged, that's a you problem.
I thought the margins was where the challenge to hegemony comes from? Oh, just not when it's bitches right?
'We are more vulnerable than those bitches, insert sketchy stats, so fuck their rights give us everything we demand and if you don't...' Part 1,987,265
You wouldn't be denying the existence of female people as a class now?
GCs are at odds with mainstream liberal feminism (true, which means that your 'we're so rad smash the status quo' BS is in fact supported by all the corporate and institutional feminist power and that might tell us something)
Yes, Shulie thought that patriarchy arises *directly* from the sex difference and that the only option for women's liberation was to remove the sex difference and make babies in pods.
It may surprise you to know that a great number of us pretty much ignored that thought, right from the start, because it's, all respect Shulie, I love ya, fucking *bonkers.*
Radical feminism is simply the belief that sex-based oppression underlies all other
Some radical feminists are equality feminists, some, many in fact, are difference feminists.
I would wager that the one of the things that links together feminists opposing trans ideology, is that we understand that 'equality' =/= 'sameness.'
But please, explain my feminism to me again.
Women being female is not an 'identity.' It's a material reality. And my 'personhood' is not defined by my being female. THAT IS THE POINT.
Any woman who grasps that patriarchy functions by male default/othering women from position of male default/patriarchal projection defining women, can grasp, at a glance, that trans ideology is patriarchy on crack.
And we don't need to read Raymond to get that.
The bottom line is, you have the assimilating equality feminist 'let's conform to the male-
We have the 'fuck this entire system structured around male needs and projections and start over' people on ours.
If you were even slightly honest, you would remember that when hooks named 'white feminism,' she was talking about the first group.
Funny how in contemporary discourse appropriation of an oppressed class is high-treason. Apart from when women say they are being appropriated. Then they're just nasty cows.
This is evidence of my intellectual sophistication."
I guess Grace is okay with the horrors of what ICE has been up to then???
'Trans women are women'
'Trans men are men'
'Non-binary is valid'
'No debate'
'Trans rights are human rights'
'Sex is a spectrum'
'Bio-essentialism!'
'Colonialism invented the gender binary'
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Jokers.
It's not complicated.
All the batshit efforts at complicating are yours, and no one would be talking about 'large immobile gametes' had a load of nutbags not tried to convince everyone that no one could identify a female person or tree or a fucking mountain.
And how many times Grace, female people and trees *exist*, their definitions are not *why* they exist, and they will carry on existing regardless. Because not your god mind thank you very much.
'Mu-huh-huh, natural kinds don't exist, only hoi polloi who have not my massive and irrefutable intellectual sophistication think that, silly naive little people, the concept of *construction* is just too much for their limited pedestrian brains to grasp. It
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Hmmmm, disinformation... like?:
1. Intersex people are neither male or female
2. Intersex people prove that sex is a spectrum, or that male people are female
3. Sex is a cultural, or historical concept, and didn't exist before the colonisation of the Americas
4. All gender non-conforming people that existed throughout history are trans in the modern sense, even though that concept didn't exist and they didn't identify as such
5. Gender identity is a scientifically verified concept
6. There is no possible reason why young people
might experience distress with their body or gendered expectations other than them being trans, and that exploring those reasons is tantamount to conversion therapy
7. There is not a significant desistance rate in young people with gender dysphoria if they are not medicalised
8. Puberty blockers are just a pause button
9. Puberty blockers are totally safe and there is tons of medical evidence that the treatment has good outcomes
10. Women are not oppressed on the basis of their sex
11. Gender identification completely
overrides sex in all and every possible instance. There are no salient sex-based patterns either in physicality or behaviour that means we should continue to organise anything by sex.
12. People who continue to think that sex exists and is salient could only be motivated by
1. Intersex people are neither male or female
2. Intersex people prove that sex is a spectrum, or that male people are female
3. Sex is a cultural, or historical concept, and didn't exist before the colonisation of the Americas
I think that point of view is increasingly getting a foothold in Scotpol. Irrespective of where your sympathies are on gender recognition, you should not look the other way when people are spreading disinformation. It damages everyone by warping debate.
— Mhairi Hunter (@MhairiHunter) December 11, 2020
4. All gender non-conforming people that existed throughout history are trans in the modern sense, even though that concept didn't exist and they didn't identify as such
5. Gender identity is a scientifically verified concept
6. There is no possible reason why young people
might experience distress with their body or gendered expectations other than them being trans, and that exploring those reasons is tantamount to conversion therapy
7. There is not a significant desistance rate in young people with gender dysphoria if they are not medicalised
8. Puberty blockers are just a pause button
9. Puberty blockers are totally safe and there is tons of medical evidence that the treatment has good outcomes
10. Women are not oppressed on the basis of their sex
11. Gender identification completely
overrides sex in all and every possible instance. There are no salient sex-based patterns either in physicality or behaviour that means we should continue to organise anything by sex.
12. People who continue to think that sex exists and is salient could only be motivated by
99% of sexual offenders are male.
88% of victims of sexual offences are female.
Any society that is serious about protecting women from sexual offences must not decree *any* subclass of males immune from suspicion of being predatory.
88% of victims of sexual offences are female.
Any society that is serious about protecting women from sexual offences must not decree *any* subclass of males immune from suspicion of being predatory.
Do you think it would be legitimate to ask if for example black or gay people should be excluded from certain schools?
— Tom Harwood (@tomhfh) January 4, 2022
The same false memes about predators once circled those groups too.
Sally Hines' evidence to the WESC.
'I do not accept that male violence is a thing.'
https://t.co/79KG1w83OB
Stephen Whittle.
'I consider female people having any spaces or services to themselves, or being able to stipulate intimate care from people of their own sex, to be a legal abhorrence.'
https://t.co/MO9NVW3XpK
'Stonewall considers allowing ppl access to the spaces and services of the other sex on the basis of nothing but self declaration regardless of the obvious ways this can be abused and the evidence that it already has been to be sensible.'
https://t.co/QWsEayzeXd
'We still don't understand the law'
'Yeah, we really don't understand the law.'
'I do not accept that male violence is a thing.'
https://t.co/79KG1w83OB
Stephen Whittle.
'I consider female people having any spaces or services to themselves, or being able to stipulate intimate care from people of their own sex, to be a legal abhorrence.'
https://t.co/MO9NVW3XpK
'Stonewall considers allowing ppl access to the spaces and services of the other sex on the basis of nothing but self declaration regardless of the obvious ways this can be abused and the evidence that it already has been to be sensible.'
https://t.co/QWsEayzeXd
'We still don't understand the law'
'Yeah, we really don't understand the law.'
To the small group of women, many of whom have platforms to protect, who are intent on throwing other women under the bus.
1. That a small number of transitioned trans women have been using women's spaces for a long time is not the same as the impact of a new rights movement
that demands that *anybody is a women only on the basis of self-declaration* and explicitly includes cross-dressers under the trans umbrella. There was less than 5000 people who received a GRC. The estimates of the numbers of cross-dressers in the male population is around 4%.
THAT is a MASSIVE difference.
2. Therefore, any comments you make re: women's current resistance are irrelevant. We are not responding to the same thing.
3. Calling women's concerns about the number of males who may now have access to their intimate spaces 'hysteria'
immediately discredits you as a feminist. (Hello Judy!)
4. Female people are socialised into the rapeable class. They are subjected to objectification and violation from childhood, and especially from their early teens. This has a massive impact on
mental health and sense of their own personhood. Many of us experience being female as fucking traumatic. We *do not* share this experience with people who go through childhood and puberty as males, and whose impression of what 'being female' means is informed by patriarchal
1. That a small number of transitioned trans women have been using women's spaces for a long time is not the same as the impact of a new rights movement
To the small group of cis women worried about sharing spaces with trans women: you\u2019ve almost certainly already been doing so for most of ur life. The online trend of anti-trans hysteria is new, not trans women existing in th world we all share (under patriarchy we all experience)
— Sally Rugg (@sallyrugg) January 15, 2021
that demands that *anybody is a women only on the basis of self-declaration* and explicitly includes cross-dressers under the trans umbrella. There was less than 5000 people who received a GRC. The estimates of the numbers of cross-dressers in the male population is around 4%.
THAT is a MASSIVE difference.
2. Therefore, any comments you make re: women's current resistance are irrelevant. We are not responding to the same thing.
3. Calling women's concerns about the number of males who may now have access to their intimate spaces 'hysteria'
immediately discredits you as a feminist. (Hello Judy!)
4. Female people are socialised into the rapeable class. They are subjected to objectification and violation from childhood, and especially from their early teens. This has a massive impact on
The world can be scary for women: we are at risk of violence from men we know and men we don\u2019t, we can be ridiculed and ignored in health settings, mocked in popular culture, excluded from opportunities for leadership and power. Cis women share all these experiences w trans women
— Sally Rugg (@sallyrugg) January 15, 2021
mental health and sense of their own personhood. Many of us experience being female as fucking traumatic. We *do not* share this experience with people who go through childhood and puberty as males, and whose impression of what 'being female' means is informed by patriarchal
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This media manipulation effort was inspired by the success of the "kids in cages" freakout, a 100% Stalinist propaganda drive that required people to forget about Obama putting migrant children in cells. It worked, so now they want pics of Trump "gassing children on the border."
There's a heavy air of Pallywood around the whole thing as well. If the Palestinians can stage huge theatrical performances of victimhood with the willing cooperation of Western media, why shouldn't the migrant caravan organizers expect the same?
It's business as usual for Anarchy, Inc. - the worldwide shredding of national sovereignty to increase the power of transnational organizations and left-wing ideology. Many in the media are true believers. Others just cannot resist the narrative of "change" and "social justice."
The product sold by Anarchy, Inc. is victimhood. It always boils down to the same formula: once the existing order can be painted as oppressors and children as their victims, chaos wins and order loses. Look at the lefties shrieking in unison about "Trump gassing children" today.
Funny there are those who think these migrant caravans were a FANTASTIC idea that's going to take the immigration issue away from you.
— Brian Cates (@drawandstrike) November 26, 2018
Like several weeks watching a rampaging horde storm the fences & throw rocks at our border patrol agents & getting gassed = great optics!
This media manipulation effort was inspired by the success of the "kids in cages" freakout, a 100% Stalinist propaganda drive that required people to forget about Obama putting migrant children in cells. It worked, so now they want pics of Trump "gassing children on the border."
There's a heavy air of Pallywood around the whole thing as well. If the Palestinians can stage huge theatrical performances of victimhood with the willing cooperation of Western media, why shouldn't the migrant caravan organizers expect the same?
It's business as usual for Anarchy, Inc. - the worldwide shredding of national sovereignty to increase the power of transnational organizations and left-wing ideology. Many in the media are true believers. Others just cannot resist the narrative of "change" and "social justice."
The product sold by Anarchy, Inc. is victimhood. It always boils down to the same formula: once the existing order can be painted as oppressors and children as their victims, chaos wins and order loses. Look at the lefties shrieking in unison about "Trump gassing children" today.
