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[thread] I would be able to move on from brexit if......

 We had been told the UK holds some cards and not all of them
That it would be a difficult deal and not the easiest deal in history
That we would have liabilities to pay and these would be a substantial amount and that they are not zero and they do not buy us a trade deal
That we do not have "many solutions" to the NI border and that at the last having exhausted drones, blimps, random country examples that don't solve it and oh yes unspecified technology instead a border in the Irish Sea that no unionist can support is the answer
That far from cutting red tape this will introduce more red tape
That services will not gain access to the EU single market and they will be overlooked
That fish will be used to barter away for a deal
That we need them more than they need us
That when you say you have a plan that you can actually present evidence of its existence
That you don't cheat
That you don't lie
That you don't peddle simplist fantasy
That you don't use EU citizens as bargaining chips
That you don't say that from September 2016 we will negotiate new free trade deals with countries to be ready to sign in <2 years
That you don't lie about a dividend about a number that in itself is a lie
That you admit there will be economic damage but that you will try to take steps to minimise it
That rather than say there is no risk to sterling you admit the pound needs a correction anyway (to explain away Sterling moves after 23/6)
That you don't peddle racism, xenophobia and islamophobia fostering an atmosphere of hatred and fear that culminated in the murder of an MP
That you respect electoral law rather than sending emails scheming how to circumvent it
That you don't call the EU the 4th reich or EUSSR or any other fucked up conspiracy bullshit e.g. Kalergi conspiracy
That you don't threaten to starve the Irish, invade Spain, invade France
That you don't use EU citizens as bargaining chips
That you are able to rebut experts rather than insult and demonise experts with ad hominem insults
That you didn't invent the ridiculous brexit means brexit slogan to roll on a con
That you didn't invent the dangerous no deal is better than a bad deal without quantifying what a bad deal is or a no deal is
That you don't lie to the Queen to unlawfully prorogue Parliament
That you don't vote to break the law
That you don't call the french turds, employ nazi jibes or any other numbers of insulting words used to feed an atmosphere of hatred towards neighbours
Quite simply

I want you to be able to hold your held up high as you win

As Margaret Thatcher puts it

"The manner of winning is a matter of honour."
And at the last

You have nothing except empty hollow platitudes of "sea of opportunity", "seize the opportunity" , "move on" , "our friends and neighbours"

That really is lowering the barrel even further
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On the UK "will not hesitate" to tighten border

For the record

Months the UK "hesitated"

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Priti Patel

Is eager to divulge internal debate held in cabinet to bolster her reputation & get a boost for Tory leadership post Boris

“On ‘should we have closed our borders earlier?’ the answer is yes, I was an advocate [of] closing them last

So this is going to be a really simple thread

I have a larger thread on Priti Patel

Which we will come to at the last

But I want to focus on

“On ‘should we have closed our borders earlier?’ the answer is yes, I was an advocate [of] closing them last March.”

So I would ask of Priti

What evidence did you have that informed your advocacy?

Did you have (to borrow a phrase) an "absolute burden of proof"?

Was it just a hunch or belief?

Were you trying to "do-good" so to
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[THREAD]

This is good news

The securing of British jobs

Is good news

Though to secure them

It admits two things

1. They were under threat
2. Something was done to address that
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[thread] on the utter state of this


So really simple questions

And there are so so many

Why are concerns over race, gender and sexuality put into air quotes e.g. "fashionable"?

Is "fashionable" meant as a derogatory?

Who are you selling this shite to when you write it this way?

When did the government become "too focused" on race, gender and sexuality issues?

Define "too focused" ?

Will now "pivot" - what you mean from today 17th December 2020?

Why could you not focus on "poverty and levelling up" at the same time as equality issues since some of these issues go hand in in hand after all?

Who and what are you "levelling up" from?
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[thread]

As we approach "the last throw of the dice"

I would like to do something I haven’t done enough of

Congratulations to 37.4% of the electorate

On the 23rd June 2016 you won

Congratulations

No one can take that away from you

You

Indeed I would like to be the first one to congratulate Boris Johnson

Whatever happens in the next few days

Well done Boris

Whether he gets as a deal

Or indeed no deal

Congratulations on the "win"

You will desperately sell what you won was a "win"

If a deal then with a sale of a side measure of scapegoating narrative as to why it wasn't better

If no deal then the side sale will be the scapegoating as to why

As it will always be someone else's fault

Can I firstly apologise - its obviously because I didn't believe enough or talked the country down

I am not certain which will be sold more desperately

A really shitty deal

or no deal
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"I think endless talk about a referendum without any clear description of what the constitutional situation would be after that referendum is completely irrelevant now to the concerns of most people"
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2/ It highlights, as a win, that China’s preservation of existing liberalizations. That’s positive, but not really a big problem; the bigger issue is stagnation, where reform pledges have failed to materialize after years/decades of promises. Great example is in the FDI openings,


3/ which are highlighted to include cloud, auto, fin services etc—all areas of EU/MNC interest. Thing is, these openings aren’t new. China has begun opening auto/finance since 2018/19, while the 50% cap on cloud services has remained unchanged since 2015 (or before if we consider


4/ WTO ascension commitments vs the 2015 Telecom Catalogue, but that’s for another day). So these are existing openings that are repackaged as “wins.” More critical issue beyond FDI caps is around licensing issuance, which still big problem. Arguably some more significance in

5/ R&D and health? Not an expert, but the FDI conditions (eg hospitals only in certain cities) are limiting, while R&D could be complicated by data/info controls. It’s also unclear how existing tech transfer prohibitions exceed existing protections in the foreign investment law,
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1. This beautiful and thought provoking piece of 21st century art was shared widely in anti-EU Facebook groups, Twitter replies to journalists and elsewhere online, in 2016.

Is it an untrackable, untraceable, Cambridge Analytica-style, fake?


2. The design is obviously substandard, to be charitable .

But look a bit closer, it appears intentionally bad.

3. A lightning strike blended through a Union Jack is not the work of a beginner, in Photoshop.


4. Is it believable that a designer capable of creating that effect in Photoshop, would also be virtually illiterate?

Literate enough to spell “Sovereignty” correctly.


5. But not literate enough to spell “corrupt”.
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Brexit. A Eurovision Negotiating Contest. How are the contestants doing? To read the UK press you’d be forgiven for being ... completely misinformed. We’re lurching into a crisis on a scale not seen since at least 1956 & probably 1945. Here’s what’s really going on. A thread./1.

For a number of key journalists, their only job is to take dictation from the 10 Downing Street spokesman & give it to the Times, Telegraph or Spectator for publishing. This is part of a therapy effort for the small minority of the population who read those publications & .../2.

... would otherwise be confused by being confronted with the reality of the world around them. The articles are interesting for two reasons:

⁃They tell you precisely what 10 Downing Street currently wants those readers, which include other journalists, to hear. /3.

⁃Looking at their detailed content, such as it is, shows just how possible a “deal” quite obviously is & how nonsensical a “no deal” would be. They also (if you’re familiar with a bit of background, which you surely are) highlight just how bad a “deal” of the sort .../4.

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This very short article by Jeremy Cliffe is the best thing I have ever read on Brexit and the EU. It pivots on the contrast between Delors’ and Thatcher’s authentically provincial Christian visions and suggests the battle in Britain between the two is not over.


Thatcher: Protestant believer in the totally free market and absolutely sovereign centralised nation state. Delors: Catholic believer in third way personalism, corporatism and federalism. Individualism versus relational love. Heterodoxy versus Orthodoxy.

The article useful gives the lie to the idea that the Catholic vision of the EU has altogether vanished even though it is weakened. Delors wanted a social dimension to the free market and single currency and yet lexiteers laughably insist the EU is more neoliberal than the U.K.!

Subsidiary federalism is a doctrine of democracy and human fraternity. State sovereignty is a doctrine of naked power. It is a face of Antichrist. Leviathan.

Those combined that democracy can only be inside a single state fail to power just how much of private law and evermore so is necessarily international. Thus if political institutions don’t extend over borders there can be no democracy.
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This is the second time in one week that I have to engage with something written by a British academic on their assessment of Brexit & Ireland. In this case @HelenHet20 in @NewStatesman 🧵

1. @HelenHet20 Europe’s vaccine crisis has revealed the true nature of the EU?? Ireland has been a member state since 1973, has had more refs on EU topics than any other country & thus its political & administrative elite knows & understands EU @BrigidLaffan

2. Said elite & electorate never idealised EU-small states are acutely aware of limits of their power & deploy capacity with care-the Swedes coined the term smart states. Small states understand they have to be smart. @BrigidLaffan

3. Since 24th of June 2016 Ireland has been shown unstinting solidarity from 26 EU states & EU institutions. During this time, its nearest neighbour tried to power it off the diplomatic pitch & kept thinking that It could peel Ireland off from EU solidarity. @BrigidLaffan

4. On the vaccine debacle & it was one the lesson the Irish will take is that having a seat at the table & voice matters-it took an Irish Taoiseach & Foreign Minister a couple of hours to sort this out. @BrigidLaffan
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