So one last go. I will try to do this thread without swear…

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How many of you wanging on about Starmer actually read the treaty or commentary on it?

Of course it’s lousy. But in 1 way it’s good:
If you’d read it, you'd know EU have cleverly & quite deliberately set out a way back to rejoin..

...with big bl**dy lanterns to mark the way

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The treaty sets up not just a framework for constant negotiations but 5 year reviews for “adjustment”. Anything is possible 2026:
Single Market, alignment up to 90% of EU membership – but one thing won’t be – Rejoin.
& that’s as 2024 election won’t be fought on 2nd referendum.

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Johnson/a Brexiter will be PM in 2024 – they’ll win any election on 2nd referendum – easily.
Which is why Labour ruled it out.

Also not clear EU would be exactly "enthralled" by a non-aligned state suddenly deciding it’ll (re)join EU.

You – all of us - need to get smarter.

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What we all must understand....and fast is:

The road to rejoining the EU runs thru alignment...

....Which runs thru 2026 review...

....Which depends on 2024 election.

So how do we get there?

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We get there by working with we have now – not deluding yourself that you can convince a majority of the population to vote for a 2nd referendum barely 3 years after we left EU.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

That way lies insanity.

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So what do I see?
Many remainers whining that altho voting against Boris treaty was pointless “it was important for Starmer to make a pointless principled stand…for me”.

Seriously grow up.
This isn’t about you or even the so-called Redwall seats – its about adult politics.

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Also the idea that Tories will blame Labour for voting for Brexit makes no sense. In fact its really dumb.

Its Johnson’s deal.
It got a Tory majority.
Indeed, more than anything else, Brexit is now Toryism personified.

If things turn sh*t it won’t make it Labour’s Brexit.

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What Tories can do, indeed has done - & what has hurt Labour - is depict it as constantly trying to thwart Brexit.
UK is exhausted & wants a deal done even tho, revealingly, a majority think it wont benefit UK.

Think.
Where do you want to go?
How can we achieve this?

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Here’s how:

Win the argument on competence
Change narrative to UK being forced into this mess by Boris
Don’t offer 2nd referendum but offer “A better deal for Britain”

But most all - defeat Johnson’s Tories.
I couldn’t care less if that’s thru Lab, LibDems, PC, GRN or SNP

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But I tell you won’t you don’t do.

You don’t make a coalition with the 10% of hardcore “Never Starmers” to the point they prefer eternal Tory govt & Brexit rather than Starmer win an election.

Which is precisely what I see otherwise sane supposed “centerists” doing now.

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The prize is a decent country back in Europe.

We can be halfway, or even more, there by 2026.
But to get there we need to win in 2024.
Just over 3 years away – perhaps less.

So stop wanging on about pointless things or things you can’t change and help make it happen.