Back in the mists of time, we suggested that the proposed Scottish Hate Crime bill might be used as a stick to beat women who wanted to discuss the GRA, sex-based rights, & welfare of gender confused children.

We were told we were being silly: no one would do that.

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Today, we saw two proposed amendments to the hate crime bill with regard to #FreeSpeech in relation to transgender identity.

A general one from @humzayousaf & one from @liamkerrmsp which covers many of the topics women feared might result in prosecution - thank you!
If anyone had doubts that the extremists of gender ideology did not intend to use this legislation as a means to silence and intimidate, the frothing indignation of anti-woman activists who might be prevented from filing hourly hate crime reports, surely laid this to rest.
Naturally, Scottish Green Party were quick to charge into the fray. Emz Cuthbertson, co-convener of SGP women & Rainbow Greens, was in no way hyperbolic in referring to it as a "transphobes charter", with Dr Kevin finding the idea of not being able to shut women up "terrifying".
Also up were activist James (who once promoted a lurid fantasy about lesbians beating up a NB child at Edinburgh Pride) & serial party hopper, Tristan who was horrified that "misgendering" was not about to be a crime & thinks advocating child counselling is "conversion therapy".
Here is Labour activist who is "floored" by the amendments, calling them "active bigotry".
She's also furious a Labour MSP has the temerity to suggest that advocating for women's rights should not carry penal sanction.

Thank you @RhodaGrant for this amendment
Lib Dem, Layla Moran supporter, and evolutionary biologist (really), James is not a fan of #FreeSpeech

And Tristan is really hitting his stride now...
Still going...

No one suggested removing transphobia from hate crime, they are merely saying that it is not covered by women arguing that sex exists &we have rights, and that we shouldn't be punished for belief in science. Tristan clearly wanted to use this to persecute women.
Juan, who likes to write abusive articles about female MSPs is under the impression that the SNP swept to victory on a promise to create a third sex class.

He also thinks the amendments now legalise hate crime.

Not sure reading & comp are a strong suit!
Harry Giles is having a totally proportionate reaction.

Hate crime "doesn't protect" them. Well, it really doesn't protect women, but Engender's guest "feminist" thinker isn't really stopping to think about us...
Iona Paton, who has a dubious track record of smearing @joannaccherry, is still saying that talking about women's rights is "intolerance and bigotry"

She was also hoping to use the stirring up offence to prosecute Joanna.
https://t.co/ksN2nll3V4
This is Gregor. Gregor was suspended from the SNP for abusing women online. Gregor thinks protecting rape victims is wrong. Gregor thinks transphobia is now exempt from hate crime because Gregor can't use it to attack women.

Don't be like Gregor.
Jordon, the former partner of Alyn Smith MP, who shared confidential messages on Twitter and who was prevented from standing after the Sun exposed his abusive behaviour, is also cross.

Saying women might be able to talk about rights = "bowing to terfs".

"Horrifying"
An actor writes that Scotland is about to allow "conversion therapy" (allowing discussion of watchful waiting rather than affirmation and drugs, the devastating results of which were exposed in Bell case).

Apparently this means "transphobia is permitted". It's pronouns (again).
I realise the tone of this thread is flippant, but this is deadly serious. These individuals are furious that there might be any check on the legitimisation of their woman hatred.

This is the monster this bill has fed, and all MSPs should be very wary.
For more evidence, read the replies. People up in arms because @HumzaYousaf is not proposing to rip up #humanrights act & lock women up for misgendering or denying reality of 100 genders.

They want a new blasphemy law. At least the old one wasn't used!
https://t.co/01sMQWaawH

More from Law

Some WESC submissions that are worth a read....(my thread of bookmarks)

Judge Paula Grey is president of the Gender Recognition Panel

She doesn't make any recommendations, but she sets out how the process currently works

Which chimes with my analysis of the GRP User Panel and statistics
https://t.co/XixEz7lNJv

She is also co-author if the Equal Treatment Bench Book and writes about how the judges are trained by Gendered Intelligence


There is the government's own response

https://t.co/bOn9XecAkz

On single sex spaces they say the law is clear that service providers are able to restrict access to spaces on the basis of biological sex where there is clear justification.


The response from @womensaid is significant.

Their members want trans survivors to get support they need but not by undermining their ability to serve women with female staff & female only services

They highlight lack of clarity

https://t.co/p7096sZcos


This was their position in 2015

They have moved on alot - they have been consulting with members since last year, and have had the courage to say what their members told them, not what Stonewall wanted to

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