@BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @DefeatTheElites @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant 中华菊头蝠 --> Rhinolophus sinicus (Rs)
You can also see that in the abstract written in English. At that time they think that SARS came from Rs. Although Shi eventually obtained their first (declared) SARS-like in a Ra in their 4th and last trip (known).

@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @DefeatTheElites @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant From the MSc dissertation of Li Xu published in May-13.
The outbreak started in April, the miners went to hospital at the end of April and first days of May.
3 deaths: May, Jun & Aug (so, that could be the reason that early news stated only two deaths). RIP
@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant Here an updated version with some additions. Thanks @gdemaneuf for finding new info and a typo.
- Li's admission date seems incorrect (generates discrepancies). Probably was around 30-Apr-12
- There were two different groups
- Each group member had the first CT the same day
@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant @gdemaneuf Some observations: Lu's 1st symptoms date is approx. ("half a month ago"), so for the first 4 miners the 1st symptoms date is quite the same, suggesting simultaneous zoonotic events and no h2h. But for the other 2 miners it was earlier than the others (4.5 vs 11.25 days). h2h?
@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant @gdemaneuf There were two work shifts: 1. April 2nd to 16th; 2. April 22nd to 26th.
Maybe the leader of the 1st group met the 2 other miners to explain the work and infected them (h2h), or maybe the 1st group were only exposed to the virus in the last 4-5 days (no h2h)
@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant @gdemaneuf Also, it seems that someone in Kunming pressed the button and ordered a CT for the first 4 miners no matter where they were (that is the reason they have the CT the same day), and after that, they again ordered transfers to Kunming for those who were not there yet.
@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant @gdemaneuf Btw, another similarity with COVID19: time to onset of symptoms
@luigi_warren @BahulikarRahul @Daoyu15 @AntGDuarte @babarlelephant @TheSeeker268 @BillyBostickson @PaulGodolphin @BioObject @JJ2000426 @Nomdeplumi1 @_coltseavers @scottburke777 @still_a_nerd @jjcouey @Harvard2H @ydeigin @uacjess @CarltheChippy @ico_dna @Real_Adam_B @nerdhaspower @RolandBakerIII @DrAntoniSerraT1 @babarelephant @gdemaneuf Were they actually miners? We know that miner #5 (Longjian Wu) worked in copper mines for nearly 20 years (既往有近20年铜矿工作史). If he was 30 years old, it means since he was 10 years old. Wonderful communism

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