Judging a hyper-growth stock by what it can become someday is like astrology.

It's too random to be useful.

when a stock you own becomes expensive, you rationalize holding on by calling it a compounder. base rate says v v few stocks are real compounders , rest are just pigs with lipstick.

@Bapu__Mishra hardly. 30-40 stocks is fine

think different

src: intelligent investor

zomato’s mcap = 70k cr
if you are a value investor, as per buffett’s logic of good price -> zomato must earn 7,000 cr to 8,500 cr pre-tax profit by fy 27
(actually more as India’s cost of equity is higher)
zomato peak sales 2600 cr

lot of dumb ppl have commented shit despite a mention “if you are a value investor..”

zomato reports larger loss than previous quarter

analyst prepping for concall: sir, what is the reason for the loss with rebound in sales and expected operating leverage.

zomato: sorry we don’t hold concall

@SunDudez No it becomes quality 😂😂

@dollarsanddata In early 2000, a company where I used to work wanted to go public. The investment bankers looked at the numbers and said, YOU ARE PROFITABLE?! ARE YOU CRAZY? YOU CANNOT IPO UNLESS YOU ARE LOSING MONEY.

I’m paraphrasing, but not by much.

The company dutifully piled on huge expenses so it could lose money.

Then the IPO window closed when Nasdaq imploded.

The company was never the same again.

Accidents happens when one doesn't look at valuations.

A supposedly platform stock listed in 2019. OFS price was 320 Rs. High of 6396 made yesterday.

Mcap crossed 1 lac crore.

Company was affected by CoVid so will talk a bit on pre-CoVid nos.

1/3

Sales of 2300 cr in FY20. NP 730 cr. Company has a monopoly given by the govt. Business is good and many extensions taking place, which will take time to bear fruit, if at all. But valuation-wise it had gone bonkers.

2/3

Stock corrected 40%+ in 2 days. This is what can happen when one doesn't heed valuations. And ignores the risks to the business. And only looks at blue sky scenario.

A good company may not be a good investment, at any price.

3/3

Here's a fun fact for all the proponents of buying 'Quality companies at any price':

Wipro is a 'Quality Company' and a part of Nifty 50 for most part of the last 20 years

Between 2000-2021, Sales went up 22x while profits went up 33x

Stock returns were basically almost ZERO

EXCERCISE, showing how Discount Rates impact Valuation, using $NFLX as an example.

Why?

“Interest rates are to asset prices what gravity is to the apple. When there are low interest rates, there is a very low gravitational pull on asset prices"

--- Warren Buffett

(1/4)

The Futures curve is pricing in 8 Interest rate increases, or +210bp that the ANALYTS at Investment Banks have NOT yet adjusted for in Models

Investment Banks typically use the 10yr Bond, + Equity risk Premium + Beta Adjustment to arrive at a Discount Rate😉

Cont ..

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Scenario 1 - Use todays scenario Consensus (Factset) with a 7% Discount Rate, gets +10% upside in Share price for $NFLX to $416 (36.3x P/E)

Yet ...

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Scenario 2 - Same Consensus forecast but add 210bp to the Discount Rate. Surprise Surprise😉 Now there is -31% to todays Share price, with a price of $263 (22.9x P/E)

What do you choose 🧐❓

This is why there is always a focus on the 10 Yr Bond, as Equities are priced to Bonds & the cashflow they can generate

Now you can see how sensitive valuations can be to changes in Interest Rates. The Bond Market is pricing in rises, YET Analysts at Investments Banks have not