Overnight risk will be always capped
Limited Risk will keep you cool
Hedge our position
Strictly not to do for margin, as that will lead to overleveraging.
Traders Sell option for 100 and buy 10 rs option.
That is for margin reduction, not a spread.
The best spreads trader on Twitter: @Ronak_Unadkat
He trades in Nifty & Bank Nifty via spreads majorly.
In the Jainam Broking Speech, he shared how he trades debit and credit spreads:
Here's a breakdown of his 10 step method: 🧵
Collaborated with @niki_poojary
Overnight risk will be always capped
Limited Risk will keep you cool
Hedge our position
Strictly not to do for margin, as that will lead to overleveraging.
Traders Sell option for 100 and buy 10 rs option.
That is for margin reduction, not a spread.
If the market opens at the lower circuit or upper circuit, then our loss should be limited.
Eg - Expiry Trading on the 24th Feb Expiry
The market gapped down & traders lost huge sums of money.
Some lost 15% or 20% of their capital in a 4% index move.
If India-Pakistan tension news comes again we will open at a lower circuit.
In a 4% index move, people lost 10%, so in the case of a circuit, they will lose 50%.
In these cases, spreads cover your risk.
Even he lost 3-4% of capital on 24th but it is easy to recover in 1-2 months.
Shouldn't lose more than 15% of your capital in case of a lower circuit. (Worst scenario)
Adjustments become easy if the risk is capped.
Doesn't care for greeks but you should know if delta or gamma impacts you, what is our risk we should always be aware of it.
If the market goes against you in a debit spread, you can adjust by selling more options to make it a ratio spread.
Debit Spreads adjustments he does by converting it to a ratio.
Credit spreads no adjustments only stop loss.
If you trade in debit spreads, your 100 comes down to 60 but the 40 rs sold one will come down to 25.
If you bought naked options, then your 100 rs when it comes to 50, you will get out due to 50% capital loss.
After some time it goes back to cost. (regret)
Selling naked options at 100, you will get out when it becomes 200.
Imagine you've sold the 100 rs option and bought a 40rs one for 60 rs credit.
If the 100 becomes 200 then 40 will become 80 so you can hold.
The worst-case loss is fixed.
If you have an index level stop loss, you will get out in naked option s if it doubles without it even touching your level.
They will double and then come back to the price you sold it at.
Whereas in spreads, you can wait out the moves.
In credit spreads, you will sell high premiums and buy lower premiums.
To counter this some people think to sell naked options whatever the credit you received in the credit spread.
But the overnight risk is huge in that case.
Risk reward is not in your favor in such trades.
But the probability is always there. So you will win 8/10 times.
This win rate ensures we make money.
During Breakout/Breakdowns go for debit spreads.
You'll get quick money in such trades.
For reversal trades, use credit spreads.
Premiums vanish very quickly in this case.
When PDH breaks trade a call debit spread, keep the current day low as stop loss and trail via swing lows.
When PDL breaks trade a put debit spread, then keep the current day high as stop loss and trail via swing highs.
Sell Credit spreads during reversals as they help you in case of IV spike
You are protected from IV spikes if you play reversals.
Debit Spreads won't make sense in reversals due to IV crush.
Watch out for @niki_poojary's thread on Mitesh Sir, which she will post today.
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A THREAD ON @SarangSood
Decoded his way of analysis/logics for everyone to easily understand.
Have covered:
1. Analysis of volatility, how to foresee/signs.
2. Workbook
3. When to sell options
4. Diff category of days
5. How movement of option prices tell us what will happen
1. Keeps following volatility super closely.
Makes 7-8 different strategies to give him a sense of what's going on.
Whichever gives highest profit he trades in.
2. Theta falls when market moves.
Falls where market is headed towards not on our original position.
3. If you're an options seller then sell only when volatility is dropping, there is a high probability of you making the right trade and getting profit as a result
He believes in a market operator, if market mover sells volatility Sarang Sir joins him.
4. Theta decay vs Fall in vega
Sell when Vega is falling rather than for theta decay. You won't be trapped and higher probability of making profit.
Decoded his way of analysis/logics for everyone to easily understand.
Have covered:
1. Analysis of volatility, how to foresee/signs.
2. Workbook
3. When to sell options
4. Diff category of days
5. How movement of option prices tell us what will happen
1. Keeps following volatility super closely.
Makes 7-8 different strategies to give him a sense of what's going on.
Whichever gives highest profit he trades in.
I am quite different from your style. I follow the market's volatility very closely. I have mock positions in 7-8 different strategies which allows me to stay connected. Whichever gives best profit is usually the one i trade in.
— Sarang Sood (@SarangSood) August 13, 2019
2. Theta falls when market moves.
Falls where market is headed towards not on our original position.
Anilji most of the time these days Theta only falls when market moves. So the Theta actually falls where market has moved to, not where our position was in the first place. By shifting we can come close to capturing the Theta fall but not always.
— Sarang Sood (@SarangSood) June 24, 2019
3. If you're an options seller then sell only when volatility is dropping, there is a high probability of you making the right trade and getting profit as a result
He believes in a market operator, if market mover sells volatility Sarang Sir joins him.
This week has been great so far. The main aim is to be in the right side of the volatility, rest the market will reward.
— Sarang Sood (@SarangSood) July 3, 2019
4. Theta decay vs Fall in vega
Sell when Vega is falling rather than for theta decay. You won't be trapped and higher probability of making profit.
There is a difference between theta decay & fall in vega. Decay is certain but there is no guaranteed profit as delta moves can increase cost. Fall in vega on the other hand is backed by a powerful force that sells options and gives handsome returns. Our job is to identify them.
— Sarang Sood (@SarangSood) February 12, 2020
TradingView isn't just charts
It's much more powerful than you think
9 things TradingView can do, you'll wish you knew yesterday: 🧵
Collaborated with @niki_poojary
1/ Free Multi Timeframe Analysis
Step 1. Download Vivaldi Browser
Step 2. Login to trading view
Step 3. Open bank nifty chart in 4 separate windows
Step 4. Click on the first tab and shift + click by mouse on the last tab.
Step 5. Select "Tile all 4 tabs"
What happens is you get 4 charts joint on one screen.
Refer to the attached picture.
The best part about this is this is absolutely free to do.
Also, do note:
I do not have the paid version of trading view.
2/ Free Multiple Watchlists
Go through this informative thread where @sarosijghosh teaches you how to create multiple free watchlists in the free
3/ Free Segregation into different headers/sectors
You can create multiple sections sector-wise for free.
1. Long tap on any index/stock and click on "Add section above."
2. Secgregate the stocks/indices based on where they belong.
Kinda like how I did in the picture below.
It's much more powerful than you think
9 things TradingView can do, you'll wish you knew yesterday: 🧵
Collaborated with @niki_poojary
1/ Free Multi Timeframe Analysis
Step 1. Download Vivaldi Browser
Step 2. Login to trading view
Step 3. Open bank nifty chart in 4 separate windows
Step 4. Click on the first tab and shift + click by mouse on the last tab.
Step 5. Select "Tile all 4 tabs"
What happens is you get 4 charts joint on one screen.
Refer to the attached picture.
The best part about this is this is absolutely free to do.
Also, do note:
I do not have the paid version of trading view.
2/ Free Multiple Watchlists
Go through this informative thread where @sarosijghosh teaches you how to create multiple free watchlists in the free
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— Sarosij Ghosh (@sarosijghosh) September 18, 2021
A THREAD \U0001f9f5
Please Like and Re-Tweet. It took a lot of effort to put this together. #StockMarket #TradingView #trading #watchlist #Nifty500 #stockstowatch
3/ Free Segregation into different headers/sectors
You can create multiple sections sector-wise for free.
1. Long tap on any index/stock and click on "Add section above."
2. Secgregate the stocks/indices based on where they belong.
Kinda like how I did in the picture below.
Saving money on Taxes is a superpower.
Learn it and you can make money faster than ever.
Use these 3 Threads to master Saving Taxes in the next 5 min:
Collaborated with @niki_poojary:
First of all, you need to open a company account if you want to save the highest
1) If you are earning more than 50 lakhs, study this thread.
Listed out the benefits of trading in a corporate
2) How can Individuals save on taxes.
(@niki_poojary
3) How do fund managers and traders save on
Learn it and you can make money faster than ever.
Use these 3 Threads to master Saving Taxes in the next 5 min:
Collaborated with @niki_poojary:
First of all, you need to open a company account if you want to save the highest
If you are earning more than 50 lakhs from trading, just trade in a company account to save taxes.
— Aditya Todmal (@AdityaTodmal) June 1, 2022
1) If you are earning more than 50 lakhs, study this thread.
Listed out the benefits of trading in a corporate
How to save tax when income is above 50 lakhs?
— Aditya Todmal (@AdityaTodmal) March 1, 2022
Here are 9 benefits of trading in a corporate account: \U0001f9f5
Collaborated with @niki_poojary
2) How can Individuals save on taxes.
(@niki_poojary
How to save taxes on the trading profits for an individual
— Nikita Poojary (@niki_poojary) November 26, 2022
4 Legit ways to retain most of the trading income: \U0001f9f5
Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal
3) How do fund managers and traders save on
PAY LESS TAXES.
— Aditya Todmal (@AdityaTodmal) September 25, 2022
How the best (Traders and Fund Managers) get away with paying less taxes, protecting their capital and creating substantial wealth.
And the exact methods for you to use (kept secret from 99% of Traders): \U0001f9f5
Collaborated with @niki_poojary
More from Optionslearnings
There are many strategies in market 📉and it's possible to get monthly 4% return consistently if you master 💪in one strategy .
One of those strategies which I like is Iron Fly✈️
Few important points on Iron fly stategy
This is fixed loss🔴 defined stategy ,so you are aware of your losses . You know your risk ⚠️and breakeven points to exit the positions.
Risk is defined , so at psychological🧠 level you are at peace🙋♀️
How to implement
1. Should be done on Tuesday or Wednesday for next week expiry after 1-2 pm
2. Take view of the market ,looking at daily chart
3. Then do weekly iron fly.
4. No need to hold this till expiry day .
5.Exit it one day before expiry or when you see more than 2% within the week.
5. High vix is preferred for iron fly
6. Can be executed with less capital of 3-5 lakhs .
https://t.co/MYDgWkjYo8 have R:2R so over all it should be good.
8. If you are able to get 6% return monthly ,it means close to 100% return on your capital per annum.
One of those strategies which I like is Iron Fly✈️
Few important points on Iron fly stategy
This is fixed loss🔴 defined stategy ,so you are aware of your losses . You know your risk ⚠️and breakeven points to exit the positions.
Risk is defined , so at psychological🧠 level you are at peace🙋♀️
How to implement
1. Should be done on Tuesday or Wednesday for next week expiry after 1-2 pm
2. Take view of the market ,looking at daily chart
3. Then do weekly iron fly.
4. No need to hold this till expiry day .
5.Exit it one day before expiry or when you see more than 2% within the week.
5. High vix is preferred for iron fly
6. Can be executed with less capital of 3-5 lakhs .
https://t.co/MYDgWkjYo8 have R:2R so over all it should be good.
8. If you are able to get 6% return monthly ,it means close to 100% return on your capital per annum.
