Another thread on Whittle as a companion to this thread.

Here Stephen makes an impassioned plea for the rights of trans people not to be sterilised. I agree. Does Stephen know that we are now, effectively, sterilising тАЬtranskidsтАЭ? Is Stephen speaking out about this?
Yes. I agree you have the right to be parents. You know many тАЬtransmenтАЭ who have given birth. What will happen to the kids put on #PubertyBlockers followed by Cross-sex hormones?
Makes a clear statement activists did not want to campaign on тАЬsurgical statusтАЭ. #LeaveNoOneBehind. Also that they have the right to bodily privacy,
Just trans folks? Do women have the right to bodily privacy?
Is this what passing looks like? Ignoring women?
Congratulations
An impassioned defence of the campaign for Self-Identification. Make no mistake this was a demand that women accept male-bodied women in single sex spaces. That was significant over-reach and a massive blunder. Women only spaces, regardless of surgery, is my stance now.
This is what they refused to use surgical status in any court cases. Given that Whittle has five surgeries to create a facsimile penis and testicles I imagine this generates sympathy with the penis retention wing of the new тАЬwomenтАЭ.
Now we come to the claim that the backlash generated by the sheer arrogance of this movement is liken attacks on Lesbians a d Gays. Er. Like the one you just did basically implying Butch Lesbians are in-medicalised trans men? IsnтАЩt that homophobia?
And of course the old religious right accusation. Someone ought to tell Stephen about the homophobic parents who can barely conceal their desire for a daughter over a gay son. They are often religious.
Yes. Whittle. Self-Identification did indeed make women look. Now we recognise this for the biggest #Backlash against womenтАЩs (& gay) rights of our lifetime. All the stealth moves caught up with you. You arenтАЩt going to call us Ter*# are you?
Yep. Whittle went there. Then gets vocal about Sheila JeffreyтАЩs, Janice Raymond and G Greer. These are not the right kid of feminists. ( Raymond was prophetic)
Is Dismantling womenтАЩs rights the price of entry to the menтАЩs club?
Something about abolishing genders..whilst reifying them by promoting surgery to align with your desired sex, (but only if you want to, cos all bodies can be masculine/feminine...and SelfId Is fine and itтАЩs all totally consistent...)
Then a straw man argument about how we are all claiming that four year olds are getting surgeries. Nope. But your own slide showed we are referring 3 year olds to GIDs. We know 10 year olds are getting #PubertyBlockers.
And here is the big one. Kids are getting counselling and тАЬpuberty postponementтАЭ. Nope. They are getting puberty blocked. They are pretty much ALL progressing to cross sex hormones. They will be infertile...WhatтАЩs that you were saying about sterilisation?
This is the last slide of Whittles earlier Youtube. Linked in this thread.
This looks like marketing to me and I wonder if you are very going to be honest about the health impact of testosterone on females?
Probably not. You are in too deep.
HereтАЩs the full thing. See how I didnтАЩt even make a joke about when the presenter swapped the microphone for a pink one. ЁЯШ│

https://t.co/AHskGHUBW3
Adding this comment courtesy of @IsleLesbo .
I think as bad as this is for ones with parents. The kids in care met are very vulnerable in this area. Definitely happening in Vancouver. Kids in care make up 50% of one Gender Clinicians clients. 500 kids. https://t.co/6ItBlIOn1V
And this also. https://t.co/6aAP2XWtLV

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тАЬрдЦрд░реЛрдЦрд░ рд╕рдорд╛рди рдЬрдЧ рдЕрд╕реЗ рдЖрд╣реЗ рдХреА рдЬреЗрдереЗ рдорд╣рд┐рд▓рд╛рдВрдиреА рдЖрдкрд▓реЗ рдЕрд░реНрдзреЗ рджреЗрд╢ рдЖрдгрд┐ рдХрдВрдкрдиреНрдпрд╛ рдЖрдгрд┐ рдкреБрд░реБрд╖рд╛рдВрдиреА рдЕрд░реНрдзреА рдШрд░рдВ рдЪрд╛рд▓рд╡рддреАрд▓. тАЬ
- рд╢реЗрд░рд┐рд▓ рд╕рдБрдбрдмрд░реНрдЧ.


рдЕрдзреНрдпрд╛рдп рд╡рд╛рдЪрддрд╛рдирд╛ рдорд▓рд╛ рдЬрд╛рдгрд╡рд▓рдВ рдХреА рдкреНрд░рддреНрдпреЗрдХ рдорд╣рд┐рд▓рд╛ рдЬрд┐рд▓рд╛ рддрд┐рдЪреНрдпрд╛ рдЖрд╡рдбреАрдирд┐рд╡рдбреАрдВрд╢реА рдХреЛрдгрддреАрд╣реА рддрдбрдЬреЛрдб рди рдХрд░рддрд╛ рд╕реНрд╡рдд: рдЪреЗ рдХрд░рд┐рдпрд░ рдмрдирд╡рд╛рдпрдЪреЗ рдЖрд╣реЗ, рддрд┐рдЪреНрдпрд╛рд╕рд╛рдареА рд╣рд╛ manifesto рдЖрд╣реЗ. рдпрд╛ рд╡рд╛рд╕реНрддрд╡рд╡рд╛рджреА рдкреБрд╕реНрддрдХрд╛рдЪреА рд▓реЗрдЦрд┐рдХрд╛ рд╢реЗрд░рд┐рд▓ рд╕рдБрдбрдмрд░реНрдЧ рдЖрд╣реЗ. рдкреНрд░рд╛рдорд╛рдгрд┐рдХ рдмреЛрд▓рдВ рддрд░ рдореА рддреНрдпрд╛рд╡реЗрд│реА рддрд┐рдЪрдВ рдирд╛рд╡ рдХрдзреАрдЪ рдРрдХрд▓реЗ рдирд╡реНрд╣рддреЗ.


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рдирд┐рд╢реНрдЪрд┐рддрдЪ рдПрдХ рдЖрджрд░реНрд╢ рдореНрд╣рдгреВрди рдХрд╛рдо рдХреЗрд▓реЗ. рдорд▓рд╛ рд╡реИрдпрдХреНрддрд┐рдХрд░рд┐рддреНрдпрд╛ рдХрд│рд▓реЗ рдХреА рдкреБрд╕реНрддрдХрд╛рдд рдиреЛрдВрджрд╡рд▓реЗрд▓реНрдпрд╛ рдмрд░реНтАНрдпрд╛рдЪ рдЕрдЬреНрдЮрд╛рдд, рдирдХрд│рдд рд╡рд░реНрддрди рддрдереНрдп рд╕рддреНрдп рдЖрд╣реЗрдд. рддреНрдпрд╛рдкреИрдХреА рдХрд╛рд╣реАрдВрдЪрд╛ рд╕рдорд╛рд╡реЗрд╢ рдЖрд╣реЗ рдХреА рдорд╣рд┐рд▓рд╛ рдЬреНрдпрд╛ рдкреНрд░рдХрд▓реНрдкрд╛рдд рдХрд╛рдо рдХрд░рддрд╛рдд рддреНрдпрд╛ рдХреЛрдгрддреНрдпрд╛рд╣реА рдкреНрд░рдХрд▓реНрдкрд╛рдд рдкреБрдврд╛рдХрд╛рд░ рдЕрд░реНрдерд╛рдд initiative рдШреЗрдд рдирд╛рд╣реАрдд,

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