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THREAD: 14 of the best resources/topics for anyone who wants to start option selling as a career. 🧵

Collaborated with @niki_poojary

 1. Best Sources of knowledge for a beginner in option selling?

Zerodha Varsity from @Nithin0dha's team & the @tastytrade financial network.

Links:
https://t.co/iYpilaaaoV

https://t.co/iooGW9CrCZ
2. Top YouTube Channel for Options Learning?

Power of Stocks - Subhasish Pani

What you'll learn:
1. How to form a trading plan.
2. How to scale an account with risk-reward in option selling.
3. Technical analysis logics you can use daily.

15 Learnings:
https://t.co/bv2mbiajZv
3. What are the preconditions to start option Selling:

You should know technical Analysis basics like:
- Support/Resistance
- Chart Patterns
- Candle Patterns
- Dow Theory (HH, LL)

This will help you start taking high probability trades.
4. Risk Management is a must for option selling

If you don't learn to manage your risk, making money in trading is going to be an extremely difficult endeavor

Have some rules:
1. Risk no more than 0.25% per trade as a beginner
2. Risk no more than 2% in a day for the first year
You have to decide how much you're willing to lose in a day.

Whatever the amount, divide it by 3. Just risk that amount in 3 trades in a day. Stop trading if you lose 3 times.

This prevents us from overtrading and losing more.
5. Minimum Capital requirement for option selling.

Beginners can learn and practice option selling with 5L capital.

You'll be able to trade 5 lots with this. If you're doing well can take leverage by buying options and selling more quantities.

(Only if you're doing well)
5. Safest way for beginners to start:

Target options that have over 90% probability of going to zero.

As a beginner target only 0.5% per week.

If you've been profitable for 6 months, try for targets like 0.75% to 1% a week.
6. When to follow Directional strategies and when to follow non-directional strategies?

If the market is in a range, can sell options on both sides outside the range and make a profit. (strangle)

If the market has given a breakout or breakdown then avoid non-directional trading
7. How to select the strike price for selling options.

I started selecting strikes initially which were very low premiums. But had a higher probability of going to zero.

In order to become a really good trader, you need to have "profit cushion".
Once you get the profit can sell strikes based on:

- Support/Resistance
- Premium Based Strike Price

Get a sense of when and how to do adjustments.
8. Stock Options or Index options which one is good for a beginner-level person?

I personally found trading in stocks is totally useless. Not worth the effort you put in.

Unlike an index, stocks can move > 10% and beyond in the F&O segment

Not worth the stress they cause
Beginners should concentrate on index option selling.

Find your comfort whether it's Nifty or Bank Nifty. Personally, I have seen the switch from Nifty to Bank Nifty being quite difficult for some traders.

Might as well start practicing Bank Nifty from the get-go.
9. Top 3 mistakes we made trading.

- Not building a portfolio when the market corrects 30%
- Venturing in stock options due to their luring premiums
- Intend to recover all losses from the same stock thereby ending up marrying a stock
10. What % of return one should expect on a weekly or monthly basis?

Beginners would be doing great if they just manage to even break even after their first year.

Most people are wiped out in the initial years.

Later on, one can gradually move from 2-4% per month returns.
11. How to maintain Good Risk Reward in option Selling

This is an area which we want to learn the most and focus upon in the next 2 years.

However, a simple rule to follow, if you're making 4% a month, don't lose more than 2% in any single week.
12. Is knowledge of Option Greeks is really Important?

Big no! We are aware of greeks and have spent time learning them, but they have not helped us in a single trade.

If you know your support & resistance and when to exit, then no need to know Greeks.
13. Website to analyze Option Chain Data

Although we don't give much importance to option data as it doesn't work nowadays.

Opstra & NSE websites are enough, additionally, our friends really like Icharts and trading tick.
14. How to be prepared for every week?

Learn to create a weekly trading plan. Here's a thread on creating one after analyzing @niki_poojary's account.

https://t.co/aVh21muOYi
If you found this useful, please do RT first tweet.

Follow to never miss them.

See past threads here:
@AdityaTodmal & @niki_poojary

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Here are my top 10 best tweets of the week: 24th September.

• Stocks to buy & hold forever
• Companies which will always be in business
• How to 10x money in 10 years?
• Feedback of company employees
• MWPL & F&O ban list explained
• Tradingview free version tricks

Stocks one can buy and hold


These companies will always keep running, no matter if recessions come or not.


26% CAGR makes your money 10x in 10


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A Thread on the Boss himself @Mitesh_Engr

Mitesh Sir's Positional Option Selling 101:

• How to find direction
• Which options to sell
• How to deploy capital
• Exit criteria
• What ROI he targets weekly
• What % risk he takes

Done with the help of @niki_poojary


How @Mitesh_Engr Sir finds the direction?

• Daily charts S/R
• 75 min charts S/R
• Intraday trend
• Always play directional
• Never trades in strategies


Which options to sell in weekly expiry according to @Mitesh_Engr?

• Weekly candle High/Low
• Sell 1% away options from those
• Exit when levels breached


Position Sizing by @Mitesh_Engr Sir.

How to deploy your capital?

• First sell 20%
• Pyramid the next day
• When to exit
• What to do when view goes wrong
• What to do with idle capital


Some important tweets of @Mitesh_Engr Sir

• What Data to look at
• ROI for safe players per month
• Max risk per day
• Gather knowledge and play directional
• Never play strategies
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The most successful stock trader from America & the winner of all the trading competitions he competes in.

20 Powerful tweets to learn from @markminervini

A 🧵thread...

Jesse Livermore


Never let a loss exceed 8% changed his trading game for the


Key early decisions to make for your trading


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Subhasish Pani earned +1,41,25,022 profit in Option Buying on Expiry day yesterday.

He captured the down move in both futures and options.

Here's a breakdown of how he earned this profit: 🧵

Collaborated with @niki_poojary

1/ Breakout Failure

Above 42700, all traders were expecting a breakout.

But do you know failed breakouts are more powerful than breakouts?

Sharp selling will happen if a failed breakdown occurs and he was fully prepared for it.


2/ Hints

He was giving hints from 1-2 months for Option Buyers regarding when they should buy options at a low IV.

The current market scenario was one where the premiums were too low.

According to him, one should plan for a buying trade during such scenarios and target big.

3/ Gap down sharp selling

Prefers 12 o clock momentum usually whenever there is a gap-down scenario.

Already the market above 42700 buyers weren't strong enough. So on Thursday in a gap-down scenario, he was expecting a big downfall.

4/ What trade he took?

He bought 36,000 qty of puts of 42500 strike at 92 and exited them at 391.

(43200 qty is an error by him, correct qty should be 36,000)
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With a return of more than 170% & an average return of 4% on expiry days.

@Ronak_Unadkat converted 2 Cr to 5.5 Cr this year.

We met him in Mumbai & watched him do expiry trading live.

14 things to learn from him for trading FinNifty (for free):

Collaborated with @niki_poojary

(1) Small Account

First of all, let me tell you, he is trading Finnifty in only his small account.

His main expertise is Bank Nifty so he is keeping his main account only for that.

After 1 year of successful Finnifty trading, he will start with his bigger account as well.

(2) What returns to target in Finnifty?

He only trades this index for three days, i.e Friday, Monday and Tuesday.

His goal is to make 1% from here and another 1% through Bank Nifty.

This gives him a 2% week if he plays this well which is his main strength.

(3) Level-Based Trading:

He is a level-based trader, and won't book losses until his level comes.

If the level does not come, he will eat all the premiums & profit.

If the level breaks, whatever loss it shows him, he will book.

(4) How does he find his levels?

He will monitor the highest high and the lowest low of the three days i.e Fri, Mon & Tue.

Those levels he is mostly interested in shorting aggressively.

If no premiums there he will come closer.
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Undisputed champion 🏆 in option selling and undoubtedly India's best trader @Mitesh_Engr Sir

Lessons on how to trade in such difficult times from the Indian Options Conclave 3.0 by Jainam Broking Ltd

Time for a🧵

Collaborated with @AdityaTodmal

How to trade in options during high volatility i.e. India vix>22-23 ?

In the current scenario, option sellers who are deploying strangles are unable to make money

E.g.: If a trader is selling a strangle of Rs. 100 each leg then during a fast momentum on either side, one leg becomes 80 & the other one Rs. 200
So overall, the strangle seller is at a loss

Strangles & Straddles are easy to manage in low vix

During high vix, find reversals

Mitesh Sir follows 3min TF in Bank nifty futures chart

Specimen:


In a down trending market people are tempted to sell CE & avoid selling PE's, however it would be disastrous to hold those CE's till expiry

Trailing is the answer during high VIX, as the momentum is faster on both sides

Check past few days charts on 3min TF for more clarity
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If you use it right, Iron Fly is the most solid risk-defined strategy in trading.

But most people don't know how to adjust the strategy when it goes wrong.

Here are 7 adjustments you can do to lower risk and increase profitability: 🧵

Collaborated with @niki_poojary

0/ Who is this for?

This will greatly benefit people who freeze when it comes to managing their trades and keep booking losses.

Some trade with too much fear as well when things go wrong.

Knowing these adjustments will give you the confidence to try to manage your trades.

Most of them are to lower risk on the side the market is going in.

Some adjustments even increase the profit potential and probabilities of the trade being in profit on expiry.

Let's begin by having a look at the adjustments.

Here is the adjustment number 1 below.

1/ Don't do anything till your breakeven arrives

One reason these strategies go wrong far too quickly is due to adjusting them too frequently.

You can escape most adjustments if you simply wait for the market to arrive at your breakeven.

This will work well in monthly options.

2/ Remove Risk from Untested Side

If you've taken an iron fly and the market has gone up you can shift your put buy upwards and lock the downside risk to potentially zero.

This way you've secured one side and just need to manage the bleeding side.
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Since 99% of my own trades are in options, the calls I give are also on options. I am of the firm belief, that a basic knowledge of option greeks is necessary for any trader aspiring to trade options. For this, there are numerous books and even more resources on the net/youtube

However, a trader trying to learn Greeks face the problem of information overload. The problems are mainly 3
1. Either the text is too mathematical
2. Or the explanation is too simple just skimming the surface
3. In some cases, outright wrong info ( specially on youtube)

I have decided to make a video on options greeks in which I will try to explain simply ( without the maths 😀) but will go a bit more in-depth so that the info is usable by traders doing actual trades

Spent the major part of today designing the ppt ( 40 slides), hope to upload the video in the next few days. I will also provide the names of other resources which I have referred in making the video so that viewers can refer those texts for a more comprehensive understanding.

The video will be from the view of a trader/practitioner and not just a theoretical discussion.

I sincerely hope starters will be benefitted from my effort 🙏
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Aditya Todmal
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The most valuable hedging strategy you aren't using:

The IRON FLY STRATEGY.

Knowing how to use it will protect you from gaps and intraday spikes and 10x your hedging experience.

Here's the step-by-step guide:

Collaborated with @niki_poojary


Here's what you'll learn in this thread:

1. What is an iron fly
2. Perks and Drawbacks
3. What to do when in profit?
4. How to adjust when in loss?
5. Thread on How to keep shifting an iron fly for max credit?
6. Risk-free trades benefits

Let's dive in ↓

1/ What is an iron fly?

Sell ATM CE and PE (Short straddle)
Buy OTM CE and PE (Hedge it by buying on both sides)

Look at the picture below for an example of an iron fly in current weekly options.


2/ Why do traders like iron fly?

Many traders want to receive maximum theta or max credit.

This is why they sell straddles.

But straddles have unlimited risk in them, and can't handle gaps or intraday spikes.

This is why traders like knowing the maximum loss in their trades.

3/ Perks of Iron Fly

Low capital required—Possible to buy first, sell later

Limit losses—Know your maximum loss upfront

Adjustments—Can reduce losses to zero or almost nothing

Weekly earnings—Possible on a weekly basis

Jackpot—Potential for a jackpot if it expires in middle
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