What we do know is that Trump insisted there not be any advisors at the meeting. Unprecedented for a planned meeting. And it was remarkably long, 2 hours 20 minutes. After the meeting Trump took the interpreter's notes and tore them up. There is no record
Helsinki Speculation Thread 1/
What happened at the Helsinki Hostage Summit?
Trump & Putin spent 2 hours 20 minutes alone, without any advisors. After the meeting we get this infamous photo, which essentially summarizes Trump. The Gimp & his Master. This thread is speculation
What we do know is that Trump insisted there not be any advisors at the meeting. Unprecedented for a planned meeting. And it was remarkably long, 2 hours 20 minutes. After the meeting Trump took the interpreter's notes and tore them up. There is no record
BEFORE the Helsinki Hostage Summit, Trump had been eager and enthusiastic about the upcoming summit. But after the personal meeting, he emerged ashen, as if frightened out of his mind, while Czar Vladimir the Smug wore that grin like the winner
So nobody apart from Trump, Putin and the interpreter know what happened. Trump did NOT inform his advisors or the Secretary of State etc, what he had talked about.
BUT we can play detective. What can we infer? Trump was devastated, Putin triumphed
My guess is that Trump had arrived with what he considered was a 'brilliant' plan. One that was 'fail-safe'. And obviously totally corrupt, that is why the secrecy. And Putin rejected it flat-out, but Putin managed to frighten the shit out of Trump.
Two keys: Trump owed Putin at this point something to the tune of half a Billion dollars ($500 million). He also owed others like Saudis, the Chinese etc. But Putin is the Mafia boss here, who has lent Trump a huge pile of cash. That loan needs repaying
Second, we did not know at the time, but found out from the partly redacted Mueller Report, that even late into 2016 election, Trump had a secret project going on about a Trump Tower for Moscow. This was a high priority for Trump, no doubt still in 2018
My guess is that Trump's fail-safe plan involved the promised Trump Tower and some 'incredibly valuable' bribe-gift to Putin, plus half ownership in that lucrative deal. And this was to somehow absolve Trump from his debts to Putin (or part of them)
You can imagine how Trump would frame it. Moscow's tallest tower, call it say Trump Putin Plaza. Give Putin the top floor penthouse. Suggest it would be most prestigious home on the planet. Something like that. What any two-bit street hustler might like
Also Trump would have had real planners work on it, and Trump would then explain in childish delight how expensive and prestigious and VALUABLE that property would instantly become, paying back to Putin the debt with huge profit. Some real estate pitch
Because Trump is a moron, he didn't know that Putin was playing Trump. Putin is the richest person the planet has ever seen. He is the planet's first Trillionaire. The only person on the planet who has BILLIONAIRES as errand-boys. Money here is TRIVIAL
So whatever 'stable genius' real estate hustler scheme Trump had cooked up, and eagerly offered to Putin, Putin swatted aside, and rejected in the first 10 minutes. THAT explains the ashen face of Trump. The SHOCK in Trump's expression.
Obviously any Trump Tower Moscow plan has been ended. That supports my thesis. Trump instead started to talk about his other Towers abroad like the ones in Istanbul, and Trump tried to get a Trump Tower into North Korea..
But what explains Putin's grin? He held Trump for 2 hours and 20 minutes. Putin laid the law in that meeting. So dangerous, Trump tore up the interpreter's notes. And clearly Putin felt he got what he wanted.
Problem is, I cannot see what Putin gained
I can see that the mid-range nuclear weapons treaty was ended. This is in Putin's interest, because when the treaty was signed, the USA had a huge head-start in cruise missile technology. Now Russia has caught up, and Putin wanted out of that treaty.
I can't see what else. That does not seem 'enough' to justify his expression. Maybe it was also Syria, that Trump will let Assad remain in power? Or for some reason Putin wanted Nikki Haley fired at the UN. I can't imagine Putin caring about her enough
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This is an index Thread to let you find my 'Path' Threads. These six Paths are the main areas of criminal investigation that will take Donald Trump to prison for Life or more (each). I do regular updates to the Paths. This is the link to my August updates to each
Path 1 of 6 is the Weisselberg Path. This is about Donald Trump financial crimes from 2004 to 2021. Allen Weisselberg just pleaded guilty to 15 counts of tax fraud & grand larceny. It is only the first of his 9 criminal trials to
Weisselberg Aug Thread 1/
— Tomi T Ahonen Stands With Ukraine (@tomiahonen) August 13, 2022
Ukraine War caused interruption in my updates but time to do Path 1: Allen Weisselberg
Weisselberg is Trump accountant who loses 8 criminal cases & unless he flips, will spend rest of his life in prison
His first criminal court trial starts Oct 24 pic.twitter.com/Uqa3BIWPbz
Path 2 of 6 is the Giuliani path of his crime spree 2019-2021. Rudy has been attempting to flip against Trump and get a plea bargain, after FBI raided his office, home and took his 18 phones. Rudy is not getting a
Aug Update to Giuliani Path 1/
— Tomi T Ahonen Stands With Ukraine (@tomiahonen) August 20, 2022
Ukraine war interrupted by regular updates to our Paths but with Rudy testifying under oath in Georgia, let's do update to Giuliani path to take Trump to prison for life
Trump faces SIX paths that take Trump to prison for life. + dozens with less pic.twitter.com/0AKlkNQIjj
Path 3 of 6 is the Matt Gaetz path. This does not expect to catch Trump in rape or sex crimes. But Matt Gaetz's convicion as serial teen rapist (from 2020) will get to Trump crimes in selling Presidential Pardons
Matt Gaetz Aug Thread 1/
— Tomi T Ahonen Stands With Ukraine (@tomiahonen) August 29, 2022
Next up is Path 3 to take Donald Trump to prison for life. It starts at the Gaetz of Hell. Matt will be convicted for teen rape, gets 20 years in prison
This case takes to Trump in prison, not for rape, but for selling Presidential bribes
Aug update: pic.twitter.com/taVZTCcuWa
Path 5 of 6 is Tom Barrack path with Trump crimes 2016-2017. Tom ran a series of foreign policy crimes including the extortion of Qatar. Tom's criminal court case starts in September. He got superceding indictments incl
Tom Barrack Aug Thread 1/
— Tomi T Ahonen Stands With Ukraine (@tomiahonen) August 15, 2022
Ukraine War caused interruption in my updates but time to do Path 5: Tom Barrack
Tom Barrack was Trump's inauguration finance chair. He is closest thing Trump had to a real friend. Tom was a spy for UAE. He was arrested last summer. His trial in Sept pic.twitter.com/Ewcmk0Sp4O
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