No it becomes quality 😂😂

You wanna read bullshit, here it is.

They are trying to portray high portfolio churn as updating of portfolios.

So if the fund manager churns his portfolio more he is updating his portfolio

By this logic citadel & Renaissance have the most updated port

How ridiculous isthat!

Two of the best small cap investors I think are Anil Kumar Goel and Girish Gulati.

I don’t personally know them but I know they are good when I see their names appearing in shareholding list of some really good companies

🎩’s off

Sugar stocks are a natural hedge against daru.

As ethanol blending increases, ENA prices will go up as so will the cost of your daru 😂😂

Phir bolna nahin ki bataya nahin

@ramnath2015 DCF is a lot of bullshit.
5 yrs back u could have run a DCF in ITC and come to great conclusion but over the last 5 yrs the youth globally has moved away from cigarettes to weed

1/ Howard Marks once said that before buying an asset, above anything, he wants to know “the amount of optimism that’s in the price.”

All investors can do this with a handy tool: The Reverse DCF.

I'll also leave a download link to my compact DCF Model at the end of this thread.

2/ We all know a regular DCF. But's what a "Reverse DCF"?

If we consider that a DCF is a Linear Equation, we could say the 'X' (The unknown variable) is the Intrinsic Value.

In a Reverse DCF, we start with the Market Price and try to find some other variable, say Sales Growth.

3/ Let's start by taking an example: VST Industries, a Cigarette-maker based in India.

I valued them on my blog a while ago. I'll be retaining the old assumptions, but using the latest financials.

So please note that the Valuation isn't accurate

4/ This is a "Regular DCF" of VST Industries. The Assumptions I've made indicate an Overvaluation.

The Intrinsic Value is Rs. 3,012, but the Market Price is Rs. 3,492.

Let's not dwell on whether this is correct, since we discussed earlier that this isn't an accurate Valuation.

5/ If we want to do a "Reverse DCF" instead, we need to pick a different variable to 'find'. Say, I will pick the Sales Growth numbers.

I will now remove the Sales Growth numbers from the Model and assume that Sales Growth is the same across the years for ease of calculation.

@ramnath2015 DCF is a lot of bullshit.
5 yrs back u could have run a DCF in ITC and come to great conclusion but over the last 5 yrs the youth globally has moved away from cigarettes to weed

One of the best debates I have seen in recent history between @SunilBSinghania and Saurabh Mukherjea.

TOPIC: Has P/E lost its relevance?

I resonate more with Sunil’s side. Here’s a thread 🧵 on the main points made by him:

@varinder_bansal @safiranand @myvaluepicks

1/ Importance of PE

PE is not the only factor but an important factor.

Ultimately the growth has to justify how much PE are you paying for the company.

There cannot be an unlimited PE multiple based on some xyz parameters.

2/ Hindsight Bias:

In hindsight we can say that from 2001 to 2021, a company grew at 25 % and we should have given a very high PE to it.

But on the day when you buy, you don’t know that the company is going to grow at 25% for the next 20 years.

3/ Millennial preference:

Things have become more competitive.

New generation don’t really care much about legacy.

Convenience and affordability matters more.

The longevity and sustainability of growth has changed dramatically.

4/ Company that require a big investment - There is opportunity to invest big.

Company 1: Mkt Cap of 50 cr
Company 2: Mkt cap of 1 lakh cr

50c r company can become 3x, 1 lakh cr company cannot become 2x.

On absolute basis you end up making 5 cr vs 5k cr in 1lakh cr company.

@soicfinance @suru27 Indeed. For later, industry/sector has to be within your circle of competence to judge the turnaround correctly.

Because according to Warren Buffett
"Both our operating and investment experience cause us to conclude that turnarounds seldom turn"

@_soniashenoy Agree with you on the potential. Tata has got the pricing and the models quite right in comparison to the other options available in the market.