"if you demand more pay, we will replace you with robots" is not a reason to pay people less than it costs them to work for you, it is a reason to have your corporation taken over by the state, or dismantle an unwilling state and rebuild one that does.

corporations and governments are out here accelerating your deaths so they can monetize your remains while some of you assholes go "well $15 is too much"

$15 was insufficient 20 years ago, and it's insufficient now. pay people enough to feed their babies or they will kill you.
if people have nothing left to lose they will act like people with nothing left to lose

i cannot make it clearer than this
capitalism only "works" if you have enough police per so many thousand desperately poor individuals.

capitalism only "works" if you employ enough human beings to be the face of your blatant exploitation.

go ahead and automate and watch how fast people sabotage your shit.
if your government does not keep you fed, healthy, and safe, it has no reason to exist.

government - leadership of any kind, tbh - only exists to centralise the management of common needs, so we don't all have to individually scrabble to survive every day, on our own.
anyways communism works every time, on paper and in real life. communism has always worked.

what doesn't work is trying to use communism to take care of your people while hostile world capitalists make you waste money on weapons to stop them bombing your nation into glass.
every single time communism "doesn't work" it's because britain and america make 100% sure communist nations are impoverished in their own defense, and then they use that poverty as propaganda.

if communism doesn't work, why do you spend billions fighting it?
if communism DOESN'T WORK just leave it alone and let it fail

(it won't)
communism works and the reason why your government makes you pay to fight it is because if you actually find out it works, you will put them out of their parasitic jobs. and probably out a window.
hilariously, i am not a communist. i am ojibwe. i really want settlers to be healthy and safe and happy for your own sakes, but also to feel safe enough to give the land back.

even if communism happened tomorrow, there would still be a lot of treaties and work for everyone.
if you want to respond with a load of trash about how communism doesn't work, i will need you to do the work of calculating the GNI & military budget of every 'failed' communist state, and put the resulting money into education, housing, and agriculture
it's a lot less straightforward to do this with the USA, cos so much of your military budget is siphoned off by private US corporations. this has the effect of artificially boosting your economy and dollar without putting that wealth into circulation. it goes to investors.
nevertheless, every anti-communist creeping out from under a pile of nazi literature assures me they are very good at economic maths cos they are innate logicians, so i have faith you'll do the hard work to prove yourselves, and we can look at it together.
just kidding, anti-communism is based on a load of emotions about money, religion, and masculinity, and anyone who subscribes to it as somehow innately good and freeing can only protect their eggshell delusion by pretending poverty disqualifies people from understanding poverty.

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Interesting thread, but I don't think ecosocialists or degrowthers are arguing that if German socialists had come to power the world would be green by now. Socialism is not automatically green. Eco-socialism is what it says - a green version of socialism - to be tested /1


The historical counterfactual also in not totally convincing. So let's assume Germany and Europe went socialist. The world economy would have evolved exactly the same way it did? 🤔 I doubt it, this is too deterministic. Examples: /2

We do not know if the transition from coal to oil would have taken place when it took place, the way it did. From Timothy Mitchell we know that oil was a fix for capitalism to bypass the labour strikes of coal workers. One would think that socialists would treat workers better /3

We also do not know if socialist governments would strong arm the Middle East the way capitalists did, starting wars to secure cheap oil, and setting up puppet governments. One would want to think that Rosa Luxembourg would not go down that path..../4

We also do not know if they would have continued colonial unequal exchange, extracting raw materials as cheap as possible from the rest of the world. Without cheap oil and cheap materials, it is anyone's guess if GDP and CO2 would be where it is now. /5

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